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Future services module unnecessary

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I personally don't believe that we really need the "Future services" module in the infobox for now. CAHSR has no solid timeline for reaching Union, BLW has not even come close to making any concrete plans yet for expansion further than Rancho Cucamonga, let alone to Palmdale, and even then the implication is that they'd be reliant on CAHSR's completion of two separate phases with again, no clear timeframe of completion at this time. The Metrolink infill stations have no solid timeframe of completion, and even if they did, there is very little justification for including them since they won't substantially affect service patterns. The same goes for the Metro Rail's B and D Line station in the Arts District. As for the Southeast Gateway Line, it isn't forecast to reach Union until 2043. (Though to confess the Metrolink and Metro Rail entries were my contributions.) Its just all around WP:TOOSOON at best and WP:CRYSTALBALL at worst for extensions that may not see the light of day, at least in the forms predicted in this infobox. Thoughts? OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 08:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree fairly strongly. None of this stuff is under construction or even fully funded yet. --Jfruh (talk) 04:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody also created a module for a proposed nonstop southbound Ventura County Line express train. I'm not sure if this module as a whole is needed not just on this article, but all of the other ones it's on. There has been one story back in May and no updates since. It just seems way too premature. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 12:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

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Has there been any consensus over whether this article's name should be "Union Station (Los Angeles)" or "Los Angeles Union Station?" If not, I wonder which one would be better. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 04:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's been a discussion. Category:Union stations in the United States looks like it's split about down the middle. I think you can argue that X Union Station is more natural than Union Station (X), though exceptions might apply. Mackensen (talk) 13:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Admittedly, this is less of a formal request for a name change and more of a curious question. My personal subjective preference as a local is that I would ideally prefer "Los Angeles Union Station" because it flows better to me and sounds more "proper" like other large train stations in other large American cities, like Chicago Union Station, Washington Union Station, New York Penn Station, etc. There doesn’t seem to really have been a consensus here on deciding on whether or not whichever name would be better, moreso rather this was the chosen name of the article in the beginning and we’ve stuck with it ever since, hence my question. "Los Angeles Union Station" would be preferable as a WP:NATDIS name, though only if it was the WP:COMMONNAME over "Union Station (Los Angeles)," which I am not sure of, hence the lack of a formal WP:RM. If it is demonstrably the common name, however, I will be more than happy to start a WP:RM discussion. I’d love to hear other editors’ thoughts and perspectives on this subject. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This station is actually called Los Angeles Union Station, not Union Station, so I believe it is appropriate for it to be called by its actual name. Therefore, I have started a requested move discussion below. Cyrobyte (talk) 01:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 January 2025

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Union Station (Los Angeles)Los Angeles Union Station – The actual name of this station is Los Angeles Union Station, not Union Station. There is no need to have "Los Angeles" in brackets and deviate from the station's actual name. The articles of other stations like this (whose names include the city name) such as are simply named what the station name is. The instances where the article name is "Union Station (city name)" are for when the station is actually called just Union Station, without the name of the city (e.g. Union Station (Erie, Pennsylvania)), Union Station (Columbia, Tennessee). Even if people use Union Station more often than the full name, this article still should clearly be called Los Angeles Union Station because of WP:NATURAL in addition to the fact that the name of the station does not require disambiguation. Cyrobyte (talk) 01:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]